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		<title>Comment on Gorilla Glass for a Gorilla Sized Watch by J.Edwards</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2012/04/09/gorilla-glass-for-a-gorilla-sized-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-61266</link>
		<dc:creator>J.Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the linking to the Vicker&#039;s Hardness values. 

You are valid in pointing out that my use of the term &quot;comparable&quot; in the above post was subjective and not objective. It would have been more appropriate to have phrased things along the lines of Gorilla Glass being more comparable to sapphire in those respects than standard mineral glass, which was the intent. 

As I&#039;m sure you are also aware, the topic of material hardness itself is not altogether unambiguous, which is why so many different systems of attempting to classify hardness exist, such as Vicker&#039;s, Rockwell, or the now outdated Mohs system. The fact that the Mohs system is no longer used in industry is more or less because the ability of one material to scratch another (&quot;scratch resistance&quot;) is not considered synonymous with hardness. Nor is strength synonymous with hardness. 

Anecdotally, yes, it is possible for small particles of aluminum oxide on a sandy beach to scratch Gorilla Glass. Hardened steel can be as hard as 900 kgf/mm2 and could scratch it as well, but it would be very brittle steel. Most hardened steel is tempered well below that, to somewhere between 500 &amp; 700 kgf/mm2 while mild steel is typically around 140 kgf/mm2. 

In terms of strength, I would take Gorilla Glass over sapphire. In terms of scratch resistance, I&#039;d take sapphire. For the case at hand, Gorilla Glass was a better fit and, for general use, its scratch resistance is comparable to what a client can expect from sapphire. Both will be scratched by diamond and both can be scratched by aluminum oxide. There is not a whole lot else out there that might commonly come into contact with the watch glass that could scratch it otherwise. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the linking to the Vicker&#8217;s Hardness values. </p>
<p>You are valid in pointing out that my use of the term &#8220;comparable&#8221; in the above post was subjective and not objective. It would have been more appropriate to have phrased things along the lines of Gorilla Glass being more comparable to sapphire in those respects than standard mineral glass, which was the intent. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;m sure you are also aware, the topic of material hardness itself is not altogether unambiguous, which is why so many different systems of attempting to classify hardness exist, such as Vicker&#8217;s, Rockwell, or the now outdated Mohs system. The fact that the Mohs system is no longer used in industry is more or less because the ability of one material to scratch another (&#8220;scratch resistance&#8221;) is not considered synonymous with hardness. Nor is strength synonymous with hardness. </p>
<p>Anecdotally, yes, it is possible for small particles of aluminum oxide on a sandy beach to scratch Gorilla Glass. Hardened steel can be as hard as 900 kgf/mm2 and could scratch it as well, but it would be very brittle steel. Most hardened steel is tempered well below that, to somewhere between 500 &#038; 700 kgf/mm2 while mild steel is typically around 140 kgf/mm2. </p>
<p>In terms of strength, I would take Gorilla Glass over sapphire. In terms of scratch resistance, I&#8217;d take sapphire. For the case at hand, Gorilla Glass was a better fit and, for general use, its scratch resistance is comparable to what a client can expect from sapphire. Both will be scratched by diamond and both can be scratched by aluminum oxide. There is not a whole lot else out there that might commonly come into contact with the watch glass that could scratch it otherwise.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why wear a Rolex? by nazli ozturk</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/08/20/why-wear-a-rolex/comment-page-1/#comment-61132</link>
		<dc:creator>nazli ozturk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 16:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I wear a Ladies&#039; Rolex datejust is that it is beautiful, sturdy, it does not require batteries, it goes with everything I wear and also it is a great investment. I am not a big fan of a lot of jewellery, but with my Rolex I can make a statement very palinly, and I like this very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I wear a Ladies&#8217; Rolex datejust is that it is beautiful, sturdy, it does not require batteries, it goes with everything I wear and also it is a great investment. I am not a big fan of a lot of jewellery, but with my Rolex I can make a statement very palinly, and I like this very much.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gorilla Glass for a Gorilla Sized Watch by Bad Sysadmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Sysadmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 15:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gorilla Glass is comparable in strength and scratch resistance to sapphire&quot;

This simply isn&#039;t true. Anyone who&#039;s owned a smartphone and a watch will know it anecdotally, but you can back it up with numbers too. GG has a vickers hardness of at best 700 kgf/mm2. Saphire is 2300 kgf/mm2

http://www.corning.com/docs/specialtymaterials/pisheets/PI2317.pdf

http://americas.kyocera.com/kicc/pdf/Kyocera%20Sapphire.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gorilla Glass is comparable in strength and scratch resistance to sapphire&#8221;</p>
<p>This simply isn&#8217;t true. Anyone who&#8217;s owned a smartphone and a watch will know it anecdotally, but you can back it up with numbers too. GG has a vickers hardness of at best 700 kgf/mm2. Saphire is 2300 kgf/mm2</p>
<p><a href="http://www.corning.com/docs/specialtymaterials/pisheets/PI2317.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.corning.com/docs/specialtymaterials/pisheets/PI2317.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="http://americas.kyocera.com/kicc/pdf/Kyocera%20Sapphire.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://americas.kyocera.com/kicc/pdf/Kyocera%20Sapphire.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Certified Watchmaker by Ray</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/01/30/certified-watchmaker/comment-page-1/#comment-61004</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 22:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael I&#039;m curious as to why if you received the CW21 certificate the reason they would not give you a parts account. Did they specify any further?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael I&#8217;m curious as to why if you received the CW21 certificate the reason they would not give you a parts account. Did they specify any further?</p>
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		<title>Comment on When you have a flat tire, stop and change it. by tire service durham</title>
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		<dc:creator>tire service durham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 20:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike flat tires,watches are more of a nuisance because you have to find an expert and in most case send your watch off for repair .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike flat tires,watches are more of a nuisance because you have to find an expert and in most case send your watch off for repair .</p>
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		<title>Comment on ETA 6497 / 6498 by J.Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 02:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think there is anything compatible between the two.  I believe the Omega 30T2 is a 13 ligne movment where the 6497 is a 16.5 ligne movement.  They may have similar bridge configurations but that is about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think there is anything compatible between the two.  I believe the Omega 30T2 is a 13 ligne movment where the 6497 is a 16.5 ligne movement.  They may have similar bridge configurations but that is about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ETA 6497 / 6498 by OmegaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OmegaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 23:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if this movement is compatible with the Omega 30T2?  Looking for a new movement for a vintage Omega and they look very close in specs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if this movement is compatible with the Omega 30T2?  Looking for a new movement for a vintage Omega and they look very close in specs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Anti-reflective coating by pob</title>
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		<dc:creator>pob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 22:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have a few watches with AR coating and find them all very resilient to cleaning, washing and even scrapes.  I had one example of a tarnished coating but had it re-done fairly cheaply.

  The crystal looks far better with it.  In fact I have some cheap Seiko and a fashion watch that I had coated and it made the world of difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have a few watches with AR coating and find them all very resilient to cleaning, washing and even scrapes.  I had one example of a tarnished coating but had it re-done fairly cheaply.</p>
<p>  The crystal looks far better with it.  In fact I have some cheap Seiko and a fashion watch that I had coated and it made the world of difference.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The highest quality money can buy. by Michael O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 16:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one like this!  The dial says &quot;Carlo Automatic Superflat&quot; and it has two driving wheels stuffed with red jewels.  I&#039;ve never been able to find out anything about it.
Thanks for this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one like this!  The dial says &#8220;Carlo Automatic Superflat&#8221; and it has two driving wheels stuffed with red jewels.  I&#8217;ve never been able to find out anything about it.<br />
Thanks for this post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AWCI BOD by J.Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 03:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andre, I appreciate your comments.  It is my impression based on many conversations that you feel AWCI does no good for the watchmakers of today and that you see no value in a watchmaking organization.  I see value in it and seek to improve the only organization for watchmakers that exists currently in the United States.

The only question that goes unanswered on Horology-Matters is the one I posed about what watchmakers want from a watchmaking organization.  Not one idea has been given yet.

I appreciate your ideas, I read them, I think about them and they do help me formulate my ideas and views of the watchmaking profession.  I do not believe that you are a member of AWCI so I will say no more to try and acquire your vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andre, I appreciate your comments.  It is my impression based on many conversations that you feel AWCI does no good for the watchmakers of today and that you see no value in a watchmaking organization.  I see value in it and seek to improve the only organization for watchmakers that exists currently in the United States.</p>
<p>The only question that goes unanswered on Horology-Matters is the one I posed about what watchmakers want from a watchmaking organization.  Not one idea has been given yet.</p>
<p>I appreciate your ideas, I read them, I think about them and they do help me formulate my ideas and views of the watchmaking profession.  I do not believe that you are a member of AWCI so I will say no more to try and acquire your vote.</p>
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