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	<title>Comments on: Looking for a Deal?</title>
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		<title>By: J.Peter</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2009/02/19/looking-for-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-5372</link>
		<dc:creator>J.Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it looks like most of us feel the low-end Japanese models are better than the Russian models - and they are decent watches.  For under $100 that&#039;s a deal if you don&#039;t want to pass it along to the next generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it looks like most of us feel the low-end Japanese models are better than the Russian models &#8211; and they are decent watches.  For under $100 that&#8217;s a deal if you don&#8217;t want to pass it along to the next generation.</p>
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		<title>By: desben</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2009/02/19/looking-for-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-5369</link>
		<dc:creator>desben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote for Seiko 5 as well. A lot of choices for under $50 on ebay from Singapore. They&#039;re nice looking, tough, and reasonably accurate. I&#039;ve had mine for 4 years now and it runs great (15 seconds fast a month if I leave it crown down at night and keep the power reserve fairly full).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for Seiko 5 as well. A lot of choices for under $50 on ebay from Singapore. They&#8217;re nice looking, tough, and reasonably accurate. I&#8217;ve had mine for 4 years now and it runs great (15 seconds fast a month if I leave it crown down at night and keep the power reserve fairly full).</p>
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		<title>By: nwillc</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2009/02/19/looking-for-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-5251</link>
		<dc:creator>nwillc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve a number of Vostok and Molnija automatics in the under $100USD range all purchased new. They are not partucularly acurate, +- a minute a day even, but they&#039;ve not failed me after years of use.  I don&#039;t care much about acuracy myself... my mobile can cover that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve a number of Vostok and Molnija automatics in the under $100USD range all purchased new. They are not partucularly acurate, +- a minute a day even, but they&#8217;ve not failed me after years of use.  I don&#8217;t care much about acuracy myself&#8230; my mobile can cover that.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2009/02/19/looking-for-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-5130</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who do not know: Hamilton cases are made in China (ETA factory in Shenzhen). They&#039;re good-looking, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who do not know: Hamilton cases are made in China (ETA factory in Shenzhen). They&#8217;re good-looking, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Cerullo</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2009/02/19/looking-for-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-5072</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Cerullo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MattR,
I bought my teenage son a really nice Invicta auto for his birthday.  He loves it and he gets a lot of comments on it.  It has some positional error and although I bought it new, I think the escapement, might be a little dirty from what I see on my timing machine, but overall for the money, it is OK. It has the Miyota movment in it.  Be aware that I get a lot of these almost new Invictas in for service with the Jaapanese and Swiss movements.  I just got one in today that was stopped.  Basically brand new, with a dry and dirty movment.  A regular service put them right, and they should hold up fine.  BTW, I have seen brand new $1000 Swiss watches that have errors over 10 seconds.  Unless it is a chronometer, that is not uncommon.  If you are a serious watch person, you are better off with the affordability and quality of vintage.  If you like the looks then Invictas are fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MattR,<br />
I bought my teenage son a really nice Invicta auto for his birthday.  He loves it and he gets a lot of comments on it.  It has some positional error and although I bought it new, I think the escapement, might be a little dirty from what I see on my timing machine, but overall for the money, it is OK. It has the Miyota movment in it.  Be aware that I get a lot of these almost new Invictas in for service with the Jaapanese and Swiss movements.  I just got one in today that was stopped.  Basically brand new, with a dry and dirty movment.  A regular service put them right, and they should hold up fine.  BTW, I have seen brand new $1000 Swiss watches that have errors over 10 seconds.  Unless it is a chronometer, that is not uncommon.  If you are a serious watch person, you are better off with the affordability and quality of vintage.  If you like the looks then Invictas are fine.</p>
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		<title>By: MattR</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2009/02/19/looking-for-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-4964</link>
		<dc:creator>MattR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have feedback on Invicta models with the Swiss Sellita or Japanese Miyota movements? These seem to be affordable, but I don&#039;t know how they last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have feedback on Invicta models with the Swiss Sellita or Japanese Miyota movements? These seem to be affordable, but I don&#8217;t know how they last.</p>
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		<title>By: J.Peter</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2009/02/19/looking-for-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-4960</link>
		<dc:creator>J.Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wenger Swiss Military watches are a pretty good step below Victorinox.  Their cases and bracelets and made of cheaper materials.  I haven&#039;t seen any of their mechanical models but their quartz models have a cheap feel to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wenger Swiss Military watches are a pretty good step below Victorinox.  Their cases and bracelets and made of cheaper materials.  I haven&#8217;t seen any of their mechanical models but their quartz models have a cheap feel to them.</p>
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		<title>By: youngj</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2009/02/19/looking-for-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-4957</link>
		<dc:creator>youngj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any thoughts on Wengers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any thoughts on Wengers?</p>
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		<title>By: wolf</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2009/02/19/looking-for-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-4940</link>
		<dc:creator>wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a Seiko 5 I bought used in a pawnshop in &#039;73.  I wore it for thirty years, never serviced it, it never failed to run, and I sold it for the same $25 I paid for it. It always kept quite good time, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a Seiko 5 I bought used in a pawnshop in &#8217;73.  I wore it for thirty years, never serviced it, it never failed to run, and I sold it for the same $25 I paid for it. It always kept quite good time, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Diieso</title>
		<link>http://watchmakingblog.com/2009/02/19/looking-for-a-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-4936</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Diieso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 04:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had good fortune with the Seiko movements in my beater watches... My watchmaker has timed these to +- 10 seconds per day and some are even closer to COSC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had good fortune with the Seiko movements in my beater watches&#8230; My watchmaker has timed these to +- 10 seconds per day and some are even closer to COSC.</p>
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