Comments on: Bergeon’s new screwdrivers http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/09/02/bergeons-new-screwdrivers/ A mechanical watchmaker in a digital world Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:33:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Tick Talk » Screwdriver Update http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/09/02/bergeons-new-screwdrivers/comment-page-1/#comment-15976 Tick Talk » Screwdriver Update Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:48:42 +0000 http://watchmakingblog.com/?p=373#comment-15976 [...] back in 2008 I got my hands on Bergeon’s new screwdrivers and wrote a little review. Well lets update the review. I’ve downgraded the Bergeon screwdrivers to a Don’t Buy. [...] [...] back in 2008 I got my hands on Bergeon’s new screwdrivers and wrote a little review. Well lets update the review. I’ve downgraded the Bergeon screwdrivers to a Don’t Buy. [...]

]]> By: Prem http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/09/02/bergeons-new-screwdrivers/comment-page-1/#comment-2140 Prem Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:18:32 +0000 http://watchmakingblog.com/?p=373#comment-2140 I'd use a set of both mate!! Almost the same, except for the fact that now I am used to Horotec for most of my screwdriver tools- Bergeon has some catching up to do, in the 1970's and 1980's Bergeon was the only big watchmaker supply house. Now there is 21st century competition, with several players including Horotec- Vaucher-etc, so Bergeon got a little sidetracked. With the new screwdrivers will also come some advancements in different tools and shapes., Cheers for that one Jp.. Prem I’d use a set of both mate!! Almost the same, except for the fact that now I am used to Horotec for most of my screwdriver tools- Bergeon has some catching up to do, in the 1970′s and 1980′s Bergeon was the only big watchmaker supply house. Now there is 21st century competition, with several players including Horotec- Vaucher-etc, so Bergeon got a little sidetracked. With the new screwdrivers will also come some advancements in different tools and shapes., Cheers for that one Jp..
Prem

]]> By: J.Peter http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/09/02/bergeons-new-screwdrivers/comment-page-1/#comment-2122 J.Peter Wed, 01 Oct 2008 04:39:19 +0000 http://watchmakingblog.com/?p=373#comment-2122 Prem, thanks for the review. If you were in the market for new screwdrivers and they were priced the same would you use the Horotec or New Bergeon? Prem, thanks for the review. If you were in the market for new screwdrivers and they were priced the same would you use the Horotec or New Bergeon?

]]> By: Prem http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/09/02/bergeons-new-screwdrivers/comment-page-1/#comment-2119 Prem Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:00:37 +0000 http://watchmakingblog.com/?p=373#comment-2119 Hey JP, Thanks a mil for the 'Bergeon' new type screwdriver that you sent me! Yes, it does compare favourably against the set given to me by Horotec, I liked the virtually new look to their screwdrivers, as in the futuristic grip-made in rubber, and also the ball bearings are smoother- likely that the production was made via CNC machinery (For the ball bearings as well as the screwdriver itself) Cheers for that mate! Prem Hey JP,
Thanks a mil for the ‘Bergeon’ new type screwdriver that you sent me! Yes, it does compare favourably against the set given to me by Horotec, I liked the virtually new look to their screwdrivers, as in the futuristic grip-made in rubber, and also the ball bearings are smoother- likely that the production was made via CNC machinery (For the ball bearings as well as the screwdriver itself)
Cheers for that mate!
Prem

]]> By: Prem http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/09/02/bergeons-new-screwdrivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1252 Prem Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:18:52 +0000 http://watchmakingblog.com/?p=373#comment-1252 Hi guys, I have been using 'Horotec' products for quite some time now, and an absolute must have is their screwdriver range, frankly I haven't gone back to Bergeon since. Thanks to Jp for highlighting the scredriver issue, it seems to me that Bergeon need to do some radical thinking on their product line, for whoever I speak to in Switzerland now use Horotec. Ps- A big secret is their 'MaxiPress' an indespensable all-in-one caseback opener and tool/ opens virtually any watch. Cheers, Prem Hi guys,
I have been using ‘Horotec’ products for quite some time now, and an absolute must have is their screwdriver range, frankly I haven’t gone back to Bergeon since. Thanks to Jp for highlighting the scredriver issue, it seems to me that Bergeon need to do some radical thinking on their product line, for whoever I speak to in Switzerland now use Horotec.
Ps- A big secret is their ‘MaxiPress’ an indespensable all-in-one caseback opener and tool/ opens virtually any watch.
Cheers,
Prem

]]> By: J.Peter http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/09/02/bergeons-new-screwdrivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1214 J.Peter Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:35:02 +0000 http://watchmakingblog.com/?p=373#comment-1214 Michael, Add about $30 or $40 more for the new Bergeon ones above and beyond the Horotecs. Gnargoudious, I found that the top rotates just as smoothly as the bearings do. The material is some kind of self lubricating material. It doesn't spin freely like ball bearings but it rotates extremely smoothly. It's not so much the rubber grips that I like as it is the extra diameter it offers. You really do get more torque with them when you need it. Michael,

Add about $30 or $40 more for the new Bergeon ones above and beyond the Horotecs.

Gnargoudious,

I found that the top rotates just as smoothly as the bearings do. The material is some kind of self lubricating material. It doesn’t spin freely like ball bearings but it rotates extremely smoothly. It’s not so much the rubber grips that I like as it is the extra diameter it offers. You really do get more torque with them when you need it.

]]> By: Gnargoudious http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/09/02/bergeons-new-screwdrivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1208 Gnargoudious Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:52:42 +0000 http://watchmakingblog.com/?p=373#comment-1208 How does the rotating top compare to the Horotecs? I'd imagine it's a huge improvement over the old Bergeons (the French AF ones have a nicer feel, though they have a habit of coming apart even when they're new). It would be cool if the plastic allowed bearing-smoothness without bothering with bearings. The rubber grips seem like a solution to a non-problem, though, and they're enough more expensive than Horotec that I'm not tempted to buy them. The nicest thing about both of them is that they're stainless; flaky chrome is unbecoming of a watchmaking tool. ;) How does the rotating top compare to the Horotecs? I’d imagine it’s a huge improvement over the old Bergeons (the French AF ones have a nicer feel, though they have a habit of coming apart even when they’re new). It would be cool if the plastic allowed bearing-smoothness without bothering with bearings.

The rubber grips seem like a solution to a non-problem, though, and they’re enough more expensive than Horotec that I’m not tempted to buy them. The nicest thing about both of them is that they’re stainless; flaky chrome is unbecoming of a watchmaking tool. ;)

]]> By: Michael O http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/09/02/bergeons-new-screwdrivers/comment-page-1/#comment-1190 Michael O Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:36:54 +0000 http://watchmakingblog.com/?p=373#comment-1190 I priced those Horotecs out and they are roughly three times the cost of the Bergeon set. Yow!!! Hope they are tax-deductable for pro watchmakers. I priced those Horotecs out and they are roughly three times the cost of the Bergeon set. Yow!!! Hope they are tax-deductable for pro watchmakers.

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