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Some more thoughts on counterfeits.

by Jordan Ficklin

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A while ago I reviewed a counterfeit watch to point out how poor the quality was. Mikle, posted a comment asking about my opinion of several other counterfeits. He said, “For [him] a replica watch is the only opportunity to have a watch with a well-known name.” This poses the question, why do you like the watches you do?

Harry Winston Opus 8For me watches are about the machine. I love the mechanics of a watch and the amazing things they can do. For example, Harry Winston’s Opus 8 – his latest mechanical wonder. (Read about it at Watchismo Times.) Of course, I think a watch should have some style. There are some mechanical wonders which I think are ugly.

If / when I buy a high end watch it will be for the quality and style, not for the name. I like Rolex because they truly are a lot of watch for the value. Some people buy a watch for the name recognition.

To Mikle, I say, If you can’t afford an expensive watch your friends are not going to believe your counterfeit is real. They’ll think, “there is no way you can afford that watch so it must be fake.” If you buy a counterfeit (besides supporting criminals) you will not get any of the great things that come with a high-end watch like quality, durability, precision & accuracy. If you want a watch with a well known name, try Timex, Seiko, or Citizen – these are very well known names. If you want quality without the price try Swiss Army, Hamilton, or Bulova. If you want price without the quality try Invicta, Breitling, or any of the fashion brands at the department store. If you want a watch that you’ll have to throw away in a couple of years try a counterfeit.

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6 Comments

  1. Jacob Sobell
    Posted April 18, 2008 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    I agree with the majority of your points regarding fake watches. Fake watches only benefit the criminals selling them. No one is impressed by a fake watch. Should someone be fooled by a fake watch, there can be no more pride or honor than fooling a child who knows no better.
    Where I disagree with you is on but one point. Brietling! I am personally not a fan of most of their watches on a cosmetic level but quality and after-sales service are second only to Rolex. Yes they mainly use ETA movements but their quality control of those ETA components is what sets there movements apart. Breitling supplies their mainspring barrels fully assembled. This is done more and more these days to remove the watchmaker in the field from this critical phase of reassembly. It is aslo done at Breitling to guarantee EVERY barrel assembly’s performance. Every barrel they assemble is wound and unwound by a special computerized machine that measures the power and torque of the mainspring throughout its power reserve. If I recall correctly each barrel takes 60 seconds.

    I agree there are many watch lines as well as watch models within an otherwise technically resectable brand that are nothing more than fashion statements. These have there place in the market. As long as the prospective customer is clear as to their direction of horological path, the can definately find what they are looking for. Many times however the customer has their requirements for what they want and what they THINK they want confused. I have never seen a purchase of a fake watch or one modified with aftermarket parts work out well. This is almost always done to avoid the cost of genuine products. Resale value is the first thing compromused, followed by water resistance, performance and after-sales service options. Whether it is $20 or $2000 spent on a fake or modified watch it is money simply spent on imediate entertainment, never be recouped through years of service and definately not through resale value!

    Sorry for any typing issues as I am not at my computer. Hope this help clear things up a bit.

    Jacob

  2. b
    Posted April 19, 2008 at 6:25 am | Permalink

    In the link to the Wachismo Harry Winston watch there is mention of a “pinclock”. Any idea whwere to find one?

  3. Prem
    Posted April 19, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Hi JP,
    The HW- Opus 8 may be a technological marvel, but seriously, I’d never afford it! All that money spent on what looks like a 70′s hybrid?! I dissuade from the fact that luxury is undefinable, yet to have spent on something that will look like a cheap fake?! A rather interesting comment made by you in the world of fakes…
    Cheers, Prem

  4. J.Peter
    Posted April 19, 2008 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Jacob,

    Thank you for your comments. I know my opinion of Breitling is controversial. They make decent watches, I just don’t think they command the price. I also find their spare parts policy to be unreasonable considering their product is pretty run of the mill.

    I just threw that one out there.

  5. J.Peter
    Posted April 21, 2008 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    b,

    That pin clock is pretty cool but I don’t know where you would get one.

  6. Posted June 12, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    b:
    I saw the “pin clock” in a curosity shop few days ago, it’s a ugly cheap plastic thing! Belive me, you’ll never want one! And don’t buy it online where is shown in cool photos, the real thing is nothing like that!

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